Books on ASP.net 2.0

7 Jan 2006 2:21 AM

_D

I'd like to find out if Dino Esposito's new "Programming Microsoft
ASP.NET 2.0 Core Reference" is similar to his older "Programming
Microsoft ASP.NET."

Also, same question re Jesse Liberty's 3rd edition vs 2nd ed.

If you know of other books that lend to a good intuitive base
knowledge of ASP.net, please feel free to mention them (I'm a desktop
apps programmer looking to expand a bit)

7 Jan 2006 12:57 PM

Rick Strahl [MVP]

> I'd like to find out if Dino Esposito's new "Programming Microsoft
> ASP.NET 2.0 Core Reference" is similar to his older "Programming
> Microsoft ASP.NET."

No it's not. This book is a very basic overview book. Good, but not nearly
as detailed as the older Pro book. This is kind of a 101 reference book. I
think he has a full pro update in the works for later in the year...

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West Wind Technologies
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"_D" <_*@noemail.com> wrote in message
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> I'd like to find out if Dino Esposito's new "Programming Microsoft
> ASP.NET 2.0 Core Reference" is similar to his older "Programming
> Microsoft ASP.NET."
>
> Also, same question re Jesse Liberty's 3rd edition vs 2nd ed.
>
> If you know of other books that lend to a good intuitive base
> knowledge of ASP.net, please feel free to mention them (I'm a desktop
> apps programmer looking to expand a bit)
>

11 Jan 2006 7:55 PM

_D

On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 02:57:01 -1000, "Rick Strahl [MVP]"
<rickstr***@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> I'd like to find out if Dino Esposito's new "Programming Microsoft
>> ASP.NET 2.0 Core Reference" is similar to his older "Programming
>> Microsoft ASP.NET."
>
>No it's not. This book is a very basic overview book. Good, but not nearly
>as detailed as the older Pro book. This is kind of a 101 reference book. I
>think he has a full pro update in the works for later in the year...

Thanks for your reply, Rick. I finally had a chance to compare the
"Core" book to Dino's older hardcover book at a book store. Though
the text was not identical, the chapter titles were similar with lots
of identical phrases.

I didn't have a lot of time to check this, but it does look 'Core'
parallels the older book. Were you by any chance referring to his
"Introduction to..." book? The latter surprisingly rated only about
2-1/2 stars on Amazon, with reviews saying that it was a rushed
overview of the beta product.

Amazon URLs:

'Classic' hardcover book:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0735619034

New for 2005:
Intro: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0735620245/
Core: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0735621764/

Slated for March 2006:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0735621772

7 Jan 2006 6:50 PM

Jesse Liberty

"_D" <_*@noemail.com> wrote in message
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> Also, same question re Jesse Liberty's 3rd edition vs 2nd ed.

We have totally rewritten Programming ASP.NET 3rd Edition for ASP.NET 2.0.
We went to a single language (which cut about 300 pages) and then added
about 300 pages of totally new information. We reviewed and revised every
chapter and integrated all the new changes into the flow of the text to
provide a complete and comprehensive tutorial on programming with ASP.NET
2.0

Among the new topics covered are:

* Forms-based security controls and roles-based security
* Personalization
* Themes and Skins
* Site navigation and breadcrumbs
* Master Pages
* Accessing and binding through new data controls
* Simplifying configuration and deployment
* A full introduction to Visual Studio 2005

and a good bit more. You can read about the book, try a sample chapter,
download the complete source code and join a free and private support forum
on my web site: http://www.LibertyAssociates.com - just click on Books.

Thanks for your interest.

-j

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Jesse Liberty, President
Liberty Associates, Inc.
Microsoft .NET MVP

8 Jan 2006 6:35 PM

clintonG

I'm glad you chose C#. With the ever growing benefits of client-side code
for web development I consider a single focus on the legacy C syntax and
grammar on the server and the client to be the most efficient use of my time
and a great way to avoid the cognitive dissonance that comes with the VB
syntax and grammar fork and spoon.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/

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>
> "_D" <_*@noemail.com> wrote in message
> news:449ur1dabvthhmcet57e8jtrhm8cp1qb71@4ax.com...
>> Also, same question re Jesse Liberty's 3rd edition vs 2nd ed.
>
> We have totally rewritten Programming ASP.NET 3rd Edition for ASP.NET 2.0.
> We went to a single language (which cut about 300 pages) and then added
> about 300 pages of totally new information. We reviewed and revised every
> chapter and integrated all the new changes into the flow of the text to
> provide a complete and comprehensive tutorial on programming with ASP.NET
> 2.0
>
> Among the new topics covered are:
>
> * Forms-based security controls and roles-based security
> * Personalization
> * Themes and Skins
> * Site navigation and breadcrumbs
> * Master Pages
> * Accessing and binding through new data controls
> * Simplifying configuration and deployment
> * A full introduction to Visual Studio 2005
>
> and a good bit more. You can read about the book, try a sample chapter,
> download the complete source code and join a free and private support
> forum on my web site: http://www.LibertyAssociates.com - just click on
> Books.
>
> Thanks for your interest.
>
> -j
>
>
> -----------
>
> Jesse Liberty, President
> Liberty Associates, Inc.
> Microsoft .NET MVP
>
>
>

8 Jan 2006 6:47 PM

clintonG

The sample chapter will not load...
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/progaspdotnet3/chapter/ch09.pdf

<%= Clinton Gallagher

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"Jesse Liberty" <jlibe***@libertyassociates.com> wrote in message
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>
> "_D" <_*@noemail.com> wrote in message
> news:449ur1dabvthhmcet57e8jtrhm8cp1qb71@4ax.com...
>> Also, same question re Jesse Liberty's 3rd edition vs 2nd ed.
>
> We have totally rewritten Programming ASP.NET 3rd Edition for ASP.NET 2.0.
> We went to a single language (which cut about 300 pages) and then added
> about 300 pages of totally new information. We reviewed and revised every
> chapter and integrated all the new changes into the flow of the text to
> provide a complete and comprehensive tutorial on programming with ASP.NET
> 2.0
>
> Among the new topics covered are:
>
> * Forms-based security controls and roles-based security
> * Personalization
> * Themes and Skins
> * Site navigation and breadcrumbs
> * Master Pages
> * Accessing and binding through new data controls
> * Simplifying configuration and deployment
> * A full introduction to Visual Studio 2005
>
> and a good bit more. You can read about the book, try a sample chapter,
> download the complete source code and join a free and private support
> forum on my web site: http://www.LibertyAssociates.com - just click on
> Books.
>
> Thanks for your interest.
>
> -j
>
>
> -----------
>
> Jesse Liberty, President
> Liberty Associates, Inc.
> Microsoft .NET MVP
>
>
>

9 Jan 2006 12:49 AM

Jesse Liberty

Loads great for me. Do you have Acrobat Reader installed?

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> The sample chapter will not load...
> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/progaspdotnet3/chapter/ch09.pdf
>

9 Jan 2006 1:10 AM

clintonG

Yea -- it tried to update itself and the dialog was behind other windows.
Oops :-)

<%= Clinton Gallagher

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> Loads great for me. Do you have Acrobat Reader installed?
>
>> The sample chapter will not load...
>> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/progaspdotnet3/chapter/ch09.pdf
>>
>
>

11 Jan 2006 10:12 PM

_D

On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 13:50:23 -0500, "Jesse Liberty"
<jlibe***@libertyassociates.com> wrote:

>"_D" <_*@noemail.com> wrote in message
>news:449ur1dabvthhmcet57e8jtrhm8cp1qb71@4ax.com...
>> Also, same question re Jesse Liberty's 3rd edition vs 2nd ed.

>We have totally rewritten Programming ASP.NET 3rd Edition for ASP.NET 2.0.
>We went to a single language (which cut about 300 pages) and then added
>about 300 pages of totally new information. We reviewed and revised every
>chapter and integrated all the new changes into the flow of the text to
>provide a complete and comprehensive tutorial on programming with ASP.NET
>2.0

I do have the 2nd edition of your ASP.net book as well as your other
..NET and C# books. Lucid writing and well planned flow.

I'm not an Asp.net programmer but I've been meaning to ramp up when
time affords. I confess that I got distracted by other (desktop)
projects about 2 chapters into your Asp.net 2nd ed, so I was wondering
if the new material on VS2005 would merit picking up the 3rd edition.
Apparently so. The reduction to C# is compelling alone. I find
interspersed VB distracting (hey, it leaves you the option for another
book! <g>)

Thanks for the info, Jesse.