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Where to put code to change scroll bar colorResponse.Write("<script type='text/javascript'>") Response.Write("var htmlStyle = document.getElementsByTagName('html')[0].style;") Response.Write("htmlStyle.scrollbarBaseColor = 'black';") or sometimes the last line is: Response.Write("htmlStyle.scrollbarBaseColor = 'blue;") This works in IE. I don't think it works in any other browser, but I'm not sure.\ In any event the sourse in the browsers looks like: <script type='text/javascript'>var htmlStyle = document.getElementsByTagName('html')[0].style;htmlStyle.scrollbarBaseColor = 'black';</script> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en"> ... Appears to work OK but it seems unnatural for my text to be before the DOCTYPE. Is that OK? Can you suggest a better way to do this - other than: not changing the color :-)) Thanks I would use CSS rather than JavaScript...
http://www.webdevelopersnotes.com/tips/html/css_scrollbar_color_code.php3 Technically speaking Response.Write should not be used in ASP.NET as you have no way to tell where to insert your code. See Page.ClientScript that exposes several methods allowing to inject the script at the proper place... -- Patrice "AAaron123" <aaaron***@roadrunner.com> a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion : #sYU9416JHA.1***@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...Show quoteHide quote > In Sub Page_PreRender I do: > > Response.Write("<script type='text/javascript'>") > > Response.Write("var htmlStyle = > document.getElementsByTagName('html')[0].style;") > > Response.Write("htmlStyle.scrollbarBaseColor = 'black';") > > or sometimes the last line is: > > Response.Write("htmlStyle.scrollbarBaseColor = 'blue;") > > This works in IE. I don't think it works in any other browser, but I'm not > sure.\ > > > > In any event the sourse in the browsers looks like: > > <script type='text/javascript'>var htmlStyle = > document.getElementsByTagName('html')[0].style;htmlStyle.scrollbarBaseColor > = 'black';</script> > > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" > "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> > <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en"> > ... > > Appears to work OK but it seems unnatural for my text to be before > the DOCTYPE. > > Is that OK? > > Can you suggest a better way to do this - other than: not changing > the color :-)) > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > While implementing your suggestion something strange showed up.
Once I removed the script lines my asp:Menu developed a problem. I would appreciate it if you'd look at my last post under "asp:Menu control does not work well in all browsers" Another thing is that I got the following error when I implemented code in webdevelopersnotes. Error 3 Validation (CSS 2.1): 'scrollbar-base-color' is not a known CSS property name. But it works ok! Make sense to you? Thanks Show quoteHide quote "Patrice" <http://www.chez.com/scribe/> wrote in message news:A95F9766-4813-40E7-9E7B-BAA97A60EAB6@microsoft.com... >I would use CSS rather than JavaScript... >http://www.webdevelopersnotes.com/tips/html/css_scrollbar_color_code.php3 > > Technically speaking Response.Write should not be used in ASP.NET as you > have no way to tell where to insert your code. See Page.ClientScript that > exposes several methods allowing to inject the script at the proper > place... > > -- > Patrice > > "AAaron123" <aaaron***@roadrunner.com> a écrit dans le message de groupe > de discussion : #sYU9416JHA.1***@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> In Sub Page_PreRender I do: >> >> Response.Write("<script type='text/javascript'>") >> >> Response.Write("var htmlStyle = >> document.getElementsByTagName('html')[0].style;") >> >> Response.Write("htmlStyle.scrollbarBaseColor = 'black';") >> >> or sometimes the last line is: >> >> Response.Write("htmlStyle.scrollbarBaseColor = 'blue;") >> >> This works in IE. I don't think it works in any other browser, but I'm >> not sure.\ >> >> >> >> In any event the sourse in the browsers looks like: >> >> <script type='text/javascript'>var htmlStyle = >> document.getElementsByTagName('html')[0].style;htmlStyle.scrollbarBaseColor >> = 'black';</script> >> >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" >> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> >> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en"> >> ... >> >> Appears to work OK but it seems unnatural for my text to be before >> the DOCTYPE. >> >> Is that OK? >> >> Can you suggest a better way to do this - other than: not changing >> the color :-)) >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > This is a warning. Remember that changing the scrollbar color is not part of
the standard... -- Patrice "AAaron123" <aaaron***@roadrunner.com> a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion : OCGewE66JHA.2***@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...Show quoteHide quote > While implementing your suggestion something strange showed up. > > Once I removed the script lines my asp:Menu developed a problem. > > I would appreciate it if you'd look at my last post under > "asp:Menu control does not work well in all browsers" > > > > > Another thing is that I got the following error when I implemented code in > webdevelopersnotes. > > Error 3 Validation (CSS 2.1): 'scrollbar-base-color' is not a known CSS > property name. > > But it works ok! > > Make sense to you? > > Thanks > > > "Patrice" <http://www.chez.com/scribe/> wrote in message > news:A95F9766-4813-40E7-9E7B-BAA97A60EAB6@microsoft.com... >>I would use CSS rather than JavaScript... >>http://www.webdevelopersnotes.com/tips/html/css_scrollbar_color_code.php3 >> >> Technically speaking Response.Write should not be used in ASP.NET as you >> have no way to tell where to insert your code. See Page.ClientScript that >> exposes several methods allowing to inject the script at the proper >> place... >> >> -- >> Patrice >> >> "AAaron123" <aaaron***@roadrunner.com> a écrit dans le message de groupe >> de discussion : #sYU9416JHA.1***@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> In Sub Page_PreRender I do: >>> >>> Response.Write("<script type='text/javascript'>") >>> >>> Response.Write("var htmlStyle = >>> document.getElementsByTagName('html')[0].style;") >>> >>> Response.Write("htmlStyle.scrollbarBaseColor = 'black';") >>> >>> or sometimes the last line is: >>> >>> Response.Write("htmlStyle.scrollbarBaseColor = 'blue;") >>> >>> This works in IE. I don't think it works in any other browser, but I'm >>> not sure.\ >>> >>> >>> >>> In any event the sourse in the browsers looks like: >>> >>> <script type='text/javascript'>var htmlStyle = >>> document.getElementsByTagName('html')[0].style;htmlStyle.scrollbarBaseColor >>> = 'black';</script> >>> >>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" >>> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> >>> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en"> >>> ... >>> >>> Appears to work OK but it seems unnatural for my text to be before >>> the DOCTYPE. >>> >>> Is that OK? >>> >>> Can you suggest a better way to do this - other than: not changing >>> the color :-)) >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > Thanks a lot
Show quoteHide quote "Patrice" <http://www.chez.com/scribe/> wrote in message news:7E0E2E48-1CDB-404C-A009-6CE772AB6664@microsoft.com... > This is a warning. Remember that changing the scrollbar color is not part > of the standard... > > -- > Patrice > > "AAaron123" <aaaron***@roadrunner.com> a écrit dans le message de groupe > de discussion : OCGewE66JHA.2***@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> While implementing your suggestion something strange showed up. >> >> Once I removed the script lines my asp:Menu developed a problem. >> >> I would appreciate it if you'd look at my last post under >> "asp:Menu control does not work well in all browsers" >> >> >> >> >> Another thing is that I got the following error when I implemented code >> in webdevelopersnotes. >> >> Error 3 Validation (CSS 2.1): 'scrollbar-base-color' is not a known CSS >> property name. >> >> But it works ok! >> >> Make sense to you? >> >> Thanks >> >> >> "Patrice" <http://www.chez.com/scribe/> wrote in message >> news:A95F9766-4813-40E7-9E7B-BAA97A60EAB6@microsoft.com... >>>I would use CSS rather than JavaScript... >>>http://www.webdevelopersnotes.com/tips/html/css_scrollbar_color_code.php3 >>> >>> Technically speaking Response.Write should not be used in ASP.NET as you >>> have no way to tell where to insert your code. See Page.ClientScript >>> that exposes several methods allowing to inject the script at the proper >>> place... >>> >>> -- >>> Patrice >>> >>> "AAaron123" <aaaron***@roadrunner.com> a écrit dans le message de groupe >>> de discussion : #sYU9416JHA.1***@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> In Sub Page_PreRender I do: >>>> >>>> Response.Write("<script type='text/javascript'>") >>>> >>>> Response.Write("var htmlStyle = >>>> document.getElementsByTagName('html')[0].style;") >>>> >>>> Response.Write("htmlStyle.scrollbarBaseColor = 'black';") >>>> >>>> or sometimes the last line is: >>>> >>>> Response.Write("htmlStyle.scrollbarBaseColor = 'blue;") >>>> >>>> This works in IE. I don't think it works in any other browser, but I'm >>>> not sure.\ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In any event the sourse in the browsers looks like: >>>> >>>> <script type='text/javascript'>var htmlStyle = >>>> document.getElementsByTagName('html')[0].style;htmlStyle.scrollbarBaseColor >>>> = 'black';</script> >>>> >>>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" >>>> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> >>>> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en"> >>>> ... >>>> >>>> Appears to work OK but it seems unnatural for my text to be before >>>> the DOCTYPE. >>>> >>>> Is that OK? >>>> >>>> Can you suggest a better way to do this - other than: not changing >>>> the color :-)) >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > In article <OCGewE66JHA.2***@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, AAaron123
<aaaron***@roadrunner.com> writes >Another thing is that I got the following error when I implemented code Sure it makes sense. Microsoft invented this, and it is not valid CSS. >in webdevelopersnotes. > >Error 3 Validation (CSS 2.1): 'scrollbar-base-color' is not a known CSS >property name. > >But it works ok! > >Make sense to you? That's why only IE supports it. The W3C never accepted it, mainly because they don't like this sort of idea... As an aside, I know you don't want to hear this, but changing the colour of parts of the user's UI is a really bad idea. It's about as user-friendly as changing the size of the browser window (ooh, I *hate* that!), popping open a new window with no menu, toolbar, etc and a whole pile of other things guaranteed to annoy your users! In short, I wouldn't do it, unless you want to encourage them to hit the Back button pretty fast! -- Alan Silver (anything added below this line is nothing to do with me) "Alan Silver" <alan-silver@nospam.thanx.invalid> wrote in message Agreed 100%.news:zsJ3N5MPXoNKFweL@nospamthankyou.spam... > As an aside, I know you don't want to hear this, but changing the colour > of parts of the user's UI is a really bad idea. It's about as > user-friendly as changing the size of the browser window (ooh, I *hate* > that!), popping open a new window with no menu, toolbar, etc and a whole > pile of other things guaranteed to annoy your users!
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"Mark Rae [MVP]" <mark@markNOSPAMrae.net> wrote in message I'll take your word for this but to me it looks very much better if the news:uxlKewe7JHA.5008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > "Alan Silver" <alan-silver@nospam.thanx.invalid> wrote in message > news:zsJ3N5MPXoNKFweL@nospamthankyou.spam... > >> As an aside, I know you don't want to hear this, but changing the colour >> of parts of the user's UI is a really bad idea. It's about as >> user-friendly as changing the size of the browser window (ooh, I *hate* >> that!), popping open a new window with no menu, toolbar, etc and a whole >> pile of other things guaranteed to annoy your users! > > Agreed 100%. > > > -- > Mark Rae > ASP.NET MVP > http://www.markrae.net colors all go together. But I understand you both have much more experience. Thanks In article <O7mtqRh7JHA.2***@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, AAaron123
<aaaron***@roadrunner.com> writes >I'll take your word for this but to me it looks very much better if the Colours going together is great for the page content, but that doesn't >colors all go together. mean that the browser has to match. Users like a consistent and predictable experience. That's one reason why someone used to Windows will be able to pick up a new program fairly quickly (assuming it was written properly) as they will be used to the idiom. Change the idiom, and you confuse people. Believe it or not, this includes such simple things as the colour of the scroll bars! >But I understand you both have much more experience. Been a web designer for about 17 years, and read a *lot* of books on usability and the human/machine interface. You get a bit evangelical about subject like this after a while! Ta ra -- Alan Silver (anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)
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"Alan Silver" <alan-silver@nospam.thanx.invalid> wrote in message Thanks for all the helpnews:Ud$uhUOVb5NKFwIT@nospamthankyou.spam... > In article <O7mtqRh7JHA.2***@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, AAaron123 > <aaaron***@roadrunner.com> writes >>I'll take your word for this but to me it looks very much better if the >>colors all go together. > > Colours going together is great for the page content, but that doesn't > mean that the browser has to match. > > Users like a consistent and predictable experience. That's one reason why > someone used to Windows will be able to pick up a new program fairly > quickly (assuming it was written properly) as they will be used to the > idiom. Change the idiom, and you confuse people. Believe it or not, this > includes such simple things as the colour of the scroll bars! > >>But I understand you both have much more experience. > > Been a web designer for about 17 years, and read a *lot* of books on > usability and the human/machine interface. You get a bit evangelical about > subject like this after a while! > > Ta ra > > -- > Alan Silver > (anything added below this line is nothing to do with me) 
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