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Author
1 Nov 2005 7:41 PM
Ron Mexico
I have written a graphing engine (very similar to what BigCharts.com
offers). Basically, it's an ASPX page that accepts parameters and calls
back-end business objects (dlls) to create a graph.  When the graph is
created as a jpeg, it is returned to the browser as binary data.  When it is
used at a low volume, it performs great and returns correctly drawn graphs
in a timely manner. However when the amount of traffic is increased to a
high volume, the graphs come back distorted. I've done some research on this
issue and have found that when .NET creates an object in memory, it is not
thread safe.  For instance, if an ASPX page gets called several times at
once and each call creates an object called oGraph, it will create several
oGraph objects. However, when an instance of the ASPX page goes to reference
the properties or methods of oGraph, it doesn't care about which instance in
memory that it uses. It will use one that it didn't create. What I end up
with is mutated graphs. For example, if two calls were made simultaneously
to create a 90 day IBM graph and a one day intraday MSFT graph, I will end
up with a graph with IBM as the title and a plot that reflects MSFT intraday
data.  Many times it just looks like pieces of one graph drawn on top of the
other.  Does anyone know of a way to tell the ASPX page (and the objects it
calls) to 'mind it's own business', so to say, and only use the specific
instances of objects it initiates? I have tried using
System.Threading.Monitor.Enter\Exit on all of my objects and have also tried
the SyncLock blocks, as well. Any help with this would be greatly
appreciated.

Author
1 Nov 2005 8:51 PM
Bruce Barker
you don't say which graphic library you are using. is it thread safe? (many
aren't). did you use vb module fields? these are not thread safe. by default
asp.net is thread safe, and object instances are local to the the running
thread.

-- bruce (sqlwork.com)


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"Ron Mexico" <mike.hollo***@mworld.com> wrote in message
news:uWUJBxx3FHA.1416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>I have written a graphing engine (very similar to what BigCharts.com
>offers). Basically, it's an ASPX page that accepts parameters and calls
>back-end business objects (dlls) to create a graph.  When the graph is
>created as a jpeg, it is returned to the browser as binary data.  When it
>is used at a low volume, it performs great and returns correctly drawn
>graphs in a timely manner. However when the amount of traffic is increased
>to a high volume, the graphs come back distorted. I've done some research
>on this issue and have found that when .NET creates an object in memory, it
>is not thread safe.  For instance, if an ASPX page gets called several
>times at once and each call creates an object called oGraph, it will create
>several oGraph objects. However, when an instance of the ASPX page goes to
>reference the properties or methods of oGraph, it doesn't care about which
>instance in memory that it uses. It will use one that it didn't create.
>What I end up with is mutated graphs. For example, if two calls were made
>simultaneously to create a 90 day IBM graph and a one day intraday MSFT
>graph, I will end up with a graph with IBM as the title and a plot that
>reflects MSFT intraday data.  Many times it just looks like pieces of one
>graph drawn on top of the other.  Does anyone know of a way to tell the
>ASPX page (and the objects it calls) to 'mind it's own business', so to
>say, and only use the specific instances of objects it initiates? I have
>tried using System.Threading.Monitor.Enter\Exit on all of my objects and
>have also tried the SyncLock blocks, as well. Any help with this would be
>greatly appreciated.
>
>
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Author
1 Nov 2005 10:00 PM
Ron Mexico
Thank you for the quick reply, Mr. Barker.  I am using the graphics library
that comes with .NET (GDI+, I guess)  System.Drawing.Graphics and
System.Drawing.Bitmap are the objects.  If ASP.NET is thread safe by
default, how else would I be getting combined images?  Here's a more
descriptive explanation of how the application works:  There are basically
three 'layers' to my application.

1.  The ASPX page.  All it does is take the parameters from the querys
string and create a new instance of the SecurityGraph object (an object I
wrote) and set some properties (Ticker symbol, plot color, graph
height/width, frequency, etc).   The SecurityGraph object has a Generate
method.  The last thing the ASPX page does is call that method.

2. SecurityGraph.  When the Generate method is called in the SecurityGraph
object, the database is queried based on the information set in the
properties of the SecurityGraph object set by the ASPX page which are loaded
into the new instance of the MWGraph object.

3.  MWGraph.  This object is where the graph actually gets drawn using the
Graphics and Bitmap objects.

So if ASP.NET is thread safe, I'm guessing the only thing that can be
happening to cause the output of several graphs to have shared properties is
because GDI+ isn't thread safe and the Graphics and Bitmap object are being
shared when several graphs are being created at once by the same
aspx-invoked chain of SecurityGraph and MWGraph objects?

As for 'vb module fields', I'm not quite sure what you are referring to.
Please explain further. Thanks again.



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"Bruce Barker" <brubar_nospamplease_@safeco.com> wrote in message
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> you don't say which graphic library you are using. is it thread safe?
> (many aren't). did you use vb module fields? these are not thread safe. by
> default asp.net is thread safe, and object instances are local to the the
> running thread.
>
> -- bruce (sqlwork.com)
>
>
> "Ron Mexico" <mike.hollo***@mworld.com> wrote in message
> news:uWUJBxx3FHA.1416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>I have written a graphing engine (very similar to what BigCharts.com
>>offers). Basically, it's an ASPX page that accepts parameters and calls
>>back-end business objects (dlls) to create a graph.  When the graph is
>>created as a jpeg, it is returned to the browser as binary data.  When it
>>is used at a low volume, it performs great and returns correctly drawn
>>graphs in a timely manner. However when the amount of traffic is increased
>>to a high volume, the graphs come back distorted. I've done some research
>>on this issue and have found that when .NET creates an object in memory,
>>it is not thread safe.  For instance, if an ASPX page gets called several
>>times at once and each call creates an object called oGraph, it will
>>create several oGraph objects. However, when an instance of the ASPX page
>>goes to reference the properties or methods of oGraph, it doesn't care
>>about which instance in memory that it uses. It will use one that it
>>didn't create. What I end up with is mutated graphs. For example, if two
>>calls were made simultaneously to create a 90 day IBM graph and a one day
>>intraday MSFT graph, I will end up with a graph with IBM as the title and
>>a plot that reflects MSFT intraday data.  Many times it just looks like
>>pieces of one graph drawn on top of the other.  Does anyone know of a way
>>to tell the ASPX page (and the objects it calls) to 'mind it's own
>>business', so to say, and only use the specific instances of objects it
>>initiates? I have tried using System.Threading.Monitor.Enter\Exit on all
>>of my objects and have also tried the SyncLock blocks, as well. Any help
>>with this would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>
>
Author
2 Nov 2005 1:01 AM
Bruce Barker
the .net graphics library is thread safe (but not completely multithreaded -
just a performance issue). your code must not be thread safe.

you either have static (shared in vb) variables, or you used a vb module
variable (a member variable defined in a vb module), instead of instance
data, which has led to your problem.


-- bruce (sqlwork.com)



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"Ron Mexico" <mike.hollo***@mworld.com> wrote in message
news:u4XLz%23y3FHA.3976@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Thank you for the quick reply, Mr. Barker.  I am using the graphics
> library that comes with .NET (GDI+, I guess)  System.Drawing.Graphics and
> System.Drawing.Bitmap are the objects.  If ASP.NET is thread safe by
> default, how else would I be getting combined images?  Here's a more
> descriptive explanation of how the application works:  There are basically
> three 'layers' to my application.
>
> 1.  The ASPX page.  All it does is take the parameters from the querys
> string and create a new instance of the SecurityGraph object (an object I
> wrote) and set some properties (Ticker symbol, plot color, graph
> height/width, frequency, etc).   The SecurityGraph object has a Generate
> method.  The last thing the ASPX page does is call that method.
>
> 2. SecurityGraph.  When the Generate method is called in the SecurityGraph
> object, the database is queried based on the information set in the
> properties of the SecurityGraph object set by the ASPX page which are
> loaded into the new instance of the MWGraph object.
>
> 3.  MWGraph.  This object is where the graph actually gets drawn using the
> Graphics and Bitmap objects.
>
> So if ASP.NET is thread safe, I'm guessing the only thing that can be
> happening to cause the output of several graphs to have shared properties
> is because GDI+ isn't thread safe and the Graphics and Bitmap object are
> being shared when several graphs are being created at once by the same
> aspx-invoked chain of SecurityGraph and MWGraph objects?
>
> As for 'vb module fields', I'm not quite sure what you are referring to.
> Please explain further. Thanks again.
>
>
>
> "Bruce Barker" <brubar_nospamplease_@safeco.com> wrote in message
> news:eM6jiYy3FHA.744@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> you don't say which graphic library you are using. is it thread safe?
>> (many aren't). did you use vb module fields? these are not thread safe.
>> by default asp.net is thread safe, and object instances are local to the
>> the running thread.
>>
>> -- bruce (sqlwork.com)
>>
>>
>> "Ron Mexico" <mike.hollo***@mworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:uWUJBxx3FHA.1416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>I have written a graphing engine (very similar to what BigCharts.com
>>>offers). Basically, it's an ASPX page that accepts parameters and calls
>>>back-end business objects (dlls) to create a graph.  When the graph is
>>>created as a jpeg, it is returned to the browser as binary data.  When it
>>>is used at a low volume, it performs great and returns correctly drawn
>>>graphs in a timely manner. However when the amount of traffic is
>>>increased to a high volume, the graphs come back distorted. I've done
>>>some research on this issue and have found that when .NET creates an
>>>object in memory, it is not thread safe.  For instance, if an ASPX page
>>>gets called several times at once and each call creates an object called
>>>oGraph, it will create several oGraph objects. However, when an instance
>>>of the ASPX page goes to reference the properties or methods of oGraph,
>>>it doesn't care about which instance in memory that it uses. It will use
>>>one that it didn't create. What I end up with is mutated graphs. For
>>>example, if two calls were made simultaneously to create a 90 day IBM
>>>graph and a one day intraday MSFT graph, I will end up with a graph with
>>>IBM as the title and a plot that reflects MSFT intraday data.  Many times
>>>it just looks like pieces of one graph drawn on top of the other.  Does
>>>anyone know of a way to tell the ASPX page (and the objects it calls) to
>>>'mind it's own business', so to say, and only use the specific instances
>>>of objects it initiates? I have tried using
>>>System.Threading.Monitor.Enter\Exit on all of my objects and have also
>>>tried the SyncLock blocks, as well. Any help with this would be greatly
>>>appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
2 Nov 2005 2:39 PM
Scott Allen
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:41:30 -0500, "Ron Mexico"
<mike.hollo***@mworld.com> wrote:

>For instance, if an ASPX page gets called several times at
>once and each call creates an object called oGraph, it will create several
>oGraph objects.

Yes, assuming oGraph is not defined with the Shared keyword in VB.

>However, when an instance of the ASPX page goes to reference
>the properties or methods of oGraph, it doesn't care about which instance in
>memory that it uses.

If oGraph is defined as a field in your Page derived class, then a
page instance will always reference the same oGraph object.


>It will use one that it didn't create.

You'd only see this problem if oGraph is Shared among multiple
instances, or perhaps you have shared / static fields inside of
oGraph. Perhaps you could share your code?

Author
2 Nov 2005 3:20 PM
Patrice
Looks like you are using a variable that is shared accross sessions. Do you
use a member tagged with the "static" (in c#) or "shared" (in VB.NET)
keywords ?

Those variable are shared accross the whole application and in the case of
ASP.NET it means accross users (as in ASP.NET it's a single application used
by multiple users).

--
Patrice

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"Ron Mexico" <mike.hollo***@mworld.com> a écrit dans le message de
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> I have written a graphing engine (very similar to what BigCharts.com
> offers). Basically, it's an ASPX page that accepts parameters and calls
> back-end business objects (dlls) to create a graph.  When the graph is
> created as a jpeg, it is returned to the browser as binary data.  When it
is
> used at a low volume, it performs great and returns correctly drawn graphs
> in a timely manner. However when the amount of traffic is increased to a
> high volume, the graphs come back distorted. I've done some research on
this
> issue and have found that when .NET creates an object in memory, it is not
> thread safe.  For instance, if an ASPX page gets called several times at
> once and each call creates an object called oGraph, it will create several
> oGraph objects. However, when an instance of the ASPX page goes to
reference
> the properties or methods of oGraph, it doesn't care about which instance
in
> memory that it uses. It will use one that it didn't create. What I end up
> with is mutated graphs. For example, if two calls were made simultaneously
> to create a 90 day IBM graph and a one day intraday MSFT graph, I will end
> up with a graph with IBM as the title and a plot that reflects MSFT
intraday
> data.  Many times it just looks like pieces of one graph drawn on top of
the
> other.  Does anyone know of a way to tell the ASPX page (and the objects
it
> calls) to 'mind it's own business', so to say, and only use the specific
> instances of objects it initiates? I have tried using
> System.Threading.Monitor.Enter\Exit on all of my objects and have also
tried
> the SyncLock blocks, as well. Any help with this would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
>

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