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status of ASP.NET in the market.I'm looking at C# and ASP .NET these days.
Visual Sudio 2005 looks like a neat dev. env. But before committing, I would like to know more about the current status of these tools. I noticed, that my site hoster does not support ASP at all. And more providers do not... PHP however, IS supported a lot, but does not have anything like .NET facilities, does it ? What is the status of the language wars these days ? ASP is still the way to go ? What is the market doing ? fr gr Erik Well, if your hosting provider only does Linux servers then there won't
be any support for ASP.NET. Most if not all providers that supply Windows based hosting support ASP.NET 1.1 at least if not ASP 2.0 as well. PHP however can be run on both Windows and Linux without many problems which is why you'll see it both on Windows and Linux platforms. Osiris wrote: Show quote > I'm looking at C# and ASP .NET these days. > Visual Sudio 2005 looks like a neat dev. env. > But before committing, I would like to know more about the current > status of these tools. > I noticed, that my site hoster does not support ASP at all. > And more providers do not... > PHP however, IS supported a lot, but does not have anything like .NET > facilities, does it ? > What is the status of the language wars these days ? > ASP is still the way to go ? > What is the market doing ? > > fr gr > Erik "Well, if your hosting provider only does Linux servers then there
won't be any support for ASP.NET." I don't want to be nit picky but linux can run .net using mono and in fact I have read of some websites that have .Net running on a linux server so it is possible. I don't know if there are any actual hosting sites that are doing this though. So the statement is mostly true but there is a possibility of Linux and .Net. Altman wrote:
> "Well, if your hosting provider only does Linux servers then there I realise that, but I didn't think it was important to the thread as I > won't > be any support for ASP.NET." > > I don't want to be nit picky but linux can run .net using mono and in > fact I have read of some websites that have .Net running on a linux > server so it is possible. I don't know if there are any actual hosting > sites that are doing this though. So the statement is mostly true but > there is a possibility of Linux and .Net. > haven't seen any hosting providers that provide support to mono. re:
> I don't know if there are any actual hosting sites that are doing this http://www.ubiquityhosting.com/Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/ asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/ foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/ =================================== Show quote "Altman" <balt***@easy-automation.com> wrote in message news:1152107326.460407.146970@l70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > "Well, if your hosting provider only does Linux servers then there > won't > be any support for ASP.NET." > > I don't want to be nit picky but linux can run .net using mono and in > fact I have read of some websites that have .Net running on a linux > server so it is possible. I don't know if there are any actual hosting > sites that are doing this though. So the statement is mostly true but > there is a possibility of Linux and .Net. > WOW! thats pretty cool.
Juan T. Llibre wrote: Show quote > re: >> I don't know if there are any actual hosting sites that are doing this > > http://www.ubiquityhosting.com/ > > > > > Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP > aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/ > asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/ > foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/ > =================================== > "Altman" <balt***@easy-automation.com> wrote in message > news:1152107326.460407.146970@l70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> "Well, if your hosting provider only does Linux servers then there >> won't >> be any support for ASP.NET." >> >> I don't want to be nit picky but linux can run .net using mono and in >> fact I have read of some websites that have .Net running on a linux >> server so it is possible. I don't know if there are any actual hosting >> sites that are doing this though. So the statement is mostly true but >> there is a possibility of Linux and .Net. >> > > In article <sucna2popk5u9eh5dfpqf1tho6eadd0***@4ax.com>, Osiris
<?@?.?.invalid> writes >I'm looking at C# and ASP .NET these days. Plenty do. If your current one doesn't, then find another.>Visual Sudio 2005 looks like a neat dev. env. >But before committing, I would like to know more about the current >status of these tools. >I noticed, that my site hoster does not support ASP at all. >And more providers do not... >PHP however, IS supported a lot, but does not have anything like .NET Who cares? Language wars are stupid and distract from the real issue. >facilities, does it ? >What is the status of the language wars these days ? Most (all?) languages nowadays are powerful enough to everything that 99.9999% of people want to do 99.9999% of the time. ..NET has the advantages of allowing multiple languages to be used in one project (with limitations, but not serious ones) >ASP is still the way to go ? Definitely>What is the market doing ? Who cares? I have never yet met a client who knew enough to express an opinion about the technology used on his site. They want the site to work. How you make it work is your business, not theirs. HTH -- Alan Silver (anything added below this line is nothing to do with me) Alan Silver wrote:
Show quote > In article <sucna2popk5u9eh5dfpqf1tho6eadd0***@4ax.com>, Osiris Anyone who cares about job security cares. To answer the OP's question> <?@?.?.invalid> writes > >I'm looking at C# and ASP .NET these days. > >Visual Sudio 2005 looks like a neat dev. env. > >But before committing, I would like to know more about the current > >status of these tools. > >I noticed, that my site hoster does not support ASP at all. > >And more providers do not... > > Plenty do. If your current one doesn't, then find another. > > >PHP however, IS supported a lot, but does not have anything like .NET > >facilities, does it ? > >What is the status of the language wars these days ? > > Who cares? Language wars are stupid and distract from the real issue. > Most (all?) languages nowadays are powerful enough to everything that > 99.9999% of people want to do 99.9999% of the time. > > >What is the market doing ? > > Who cares? I have never yet met a client who knew enough to express an > opinion about the technology used on his site. They want the site to > work. How you make it work is your business, not theirs. concerning the status of the .NET markets - they are immense. .NET inherently handles many key application development issues whether web or desktop or mobile or all consumers. And as it stands now - .NET provides you the tools to handle new and upcoming consumers (if not inherent). As far as the language wars - does not apply. .NET is not a language it is a framework library. VB.NET or C# is a language. More and more 'language' providers are becoming .NET compliant - being able to utilize the framework and compile to CLR and MSIL Nowadays there are many compliant languages: Ada has A# APL with Dyalog APL ASML VB.NET mbas (mono) bmcs lcc (Ansi C from princeton) cscc (Ansi C from Portable.NET) Delta Forth.NET FTN95 - Fortran for .NET LISP with clisp from Microsoft IronPHP PHP4Mono PHP Sharp P# - Prolog RubyCLR Ruby.NET This list is much larger. If you are personally looking for a way to go for "personal" reason - go with what you know - the learning curve will be flatter. But, if you are looking for a language for professional or job security - go with the major .NET languages VB/C#/Managed C++ and with ASP.NET. ..NET is here to stay and the market for "paying" customers is immense. PHP has the freebie market. And people know, you get what you pay for. Now, you may be think that this group is biased, and you'd be right. But you don't ask a butcher, "which hammer would you choose for roofing." -Rick Show quote > > HTH > > -- > Alan Silver > (anything added below this line is nothing to do with me) In article <1152218513.021637.194***@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, Rick
<richard_ryer***@hotmail.com> writes >> >What is the market doing ? Depends on your position I suppose. I have my own company and so am free >> >> Who cares? I have never yet met a client who knew enough to express an >> opinion about the technology used on his site. They want the site to >> work. How you make it work is your business, not theirs. > >Anyone who cares about job security cares. to make my own decisions. I guess if you are in the open market then you need to keep your skill set current. Having said that, it's still a long way from language wars. Up until ..NET came along (at which point interest in classic VB started to dwindle), there was always fierce wars between C++ programmers and VB programmers. Both had very large markets, so whichever side of the fence you sat, you still had as much chance of employment. The arguments were not commercially based, they were "my language is better than your language" for the most part. That was what I meant when I said language wars were stupid. Keeping your skill set current is not the same as taking sides in a language war. Ta ra -- Alan Silver (anything added below this line is nothing to do with me) <Osiris> wrote in message news:sucna2popk5u9eh5dfpqf1tho6eadd0gug@4ax.com... So find one that does - there are thousands of them...> I noticed, that my site hoster does not support ASP at all. > And more providers do not... So use one that does - there are thousands of them...> PHP however, IS supported a lot, but does not have anything like .NET PHP is perfectly capable of delivering function-rich websites - use it if > facilities, does it ? you like it... > What is the status of the language wars these days ? Language wars...? What language wars...?> ASP is still the way to go ? Being pedantic for a second, ASP is dead and buried - ASP.NET is the way to go. This is a newsgroup dedicated to ASP.NET. There are similar newsgroups dedicated to PHP, Linux, Apache, Mono, mySQL, JSP etc... >Language wars...? What language wars...? you mean they are over ????> I programmed for some 24 years, going from Fortran to assemblers, Basic, Pascal, C, Java and some I forgot about. Languages came, were fought over ("mine is the best for everything"), disappeared from public interest. Now I did not work in the field for some 3 years, studied philosophy... May need to go back... > Being pedantic for a second, ASP is dead and buried - ASP.NET is the way to I hate to contradict, but that is not true at all. I work for a state> go. > of the art development firm in Cleveland - my assignments over the past 2 years has been nothing but fortune 100 companies. GE, Alcoa, NCB, etc. Believe me when I tell you that every assignment I have been on has had something major to do with ASP. Either supporting existing pages, extending them, or integrating with ASP.NET. ASP will not be dead for a long time. Granted, my preference is ASP.NET in VS 2005 / .NET 2.0, but limiting myself to that would be the fastest way to the unemployment line. -Rick  
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