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What are the most popular languages for dot net programming?Would it be correct to say the VB is still the language most used for
Dot Net programming, and C# the second most used? "tom c" <tomca***@gmail.com> wrote in message Not wishing to sound pedantic, but you actually can't do .NET programming news:1157646979.820150.287390@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Would it be correct to say the VB is still the language most used for > Dot Net programming, and C# the second most used? with VB. Most , but not all, ASP classic server-side code was written in VBScript. VB.NET, however, is a totally different animal and perfectly suited to .NET development of WinForms, WebForms, services, console apps etc... Apart from the unfortunate coincidence of the name and some syntax similarity, VB and VB.NET bear almost no relationship one to another. As for which of the two is the more popular, short of a massive developer survey, it would be almost impossible to calculate because once the code has been compiled and deployed it takes a fair bit of unstitching to decipher which of the .NET languages it was written in... As a jobbing contract developer, I made a living through Visual Basic and its cousins (VBScript, VBA, WordBasic, AccessBasic etc) right from the start but, since .NET v1.0, I have developed everything in C# apart from only one project in VB.NET because it suited me at the time. MS is pushing C# very very hard and trying desparately to kill off VB. It's almost impossible to find complete help samples in VB
these days. Developers either convert to C# or die off with their latinesque language ... or move to Coldfusion :) Show quote "tom c" <tomca***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1157646979.820150.287390@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Would it be correct to say the VB is still the language most used for > Dot Net programming, and C# the second most used? > re:
> MS is pushing C# very very hard and trying desparately to kill off VB. That's -simply- not so.re: > It's almost impossible to find complete help samples in VB these days. Compare the current downloads for each language at the MS Download Center :C# : http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Browse.aspx?DisplayLang=en&nr=20&productId=ED4263A6-CF84-4D66-B0FB-BEFCCC28A9BD&sortCriteria=date There's 213 downloads for Visual C#. VB.NET: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Browse.aspx?DisplayLang=en&nr=20&productId=1652D9A4-F0B3-4630-ACD5-56982EA750AB&sortCriteria=date There's 331 downloads for VB.NET. Over and above the individual language downloads, there's hundreds more downloads which include both languages. You are spreading FUD...and I wonder why you're doing it. Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/ asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/ foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/ =================================== Show quote "Jon Paal" <Jon[ nospam ]Paal @ everywhere dot com> wrote in message news:Oi3C87r0GHA.1536@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > MS is pushing C# very very hard and trying desparately to kill off VB. It's almost impossible to > find complete help samples in VB these days. > > Developers either convert to C# or die off with their latinesque language > > .. or move to Coldfusion :) > > > "tom c" <tomca***@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1157646979.820150.287390@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> Would it be correct to say the VB is still the language most used for >> Dot Net programming, and C# the second most used? >> > > "microsoft ASP.net 2.0 core reference" from mspress is their manual available in "C#"
where is the "microsoft ASP.net 2.0 core reference" from mspress in "VB" ? very hard to find complete training source materials in VB - my personal experience Show quote "Juan T. Llibre" <nomailrepl***@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:OnjFSFs0GHA.324@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > re: >> MS is pushing C# very very hard and trying desparately to kill off VB. > > That's -simply- not so. > > re: >> It's almost impossible to find complete help samples in VB these days. > > Compare the current downloads for each language at the MS Download Center : > > C# : > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Browse.aspx?DisplayLang=en&nr=20&productId=ED4263A6-CF84-4D66-B0FB-BEFCCC28A9BD&sortCriteria=date > > There's 213 downloads for Visual C#. > > VB.NET: > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Browse.aspx?DisplayLang=en&nr=20&productId=1652D9A4-F0B3-4630-ACD5-56982EA750AB&sortCriteria=date > > There's 331 downloads for VB.NET. > > Over and above the individual language downloads, > there's hundreds more downloads which include both languages. > > You are spreading FUD...and I wonder why you're doing it. > > > > > Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP > aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/ > asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/ > foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/ > =================================== > "Jon Paal" <Jon[ nospam ]Paal @ everywhere dot com> wrote in message news:Oi3C87r0GHA.1536@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> MS is pushing C# very very hard and trying desparately to kill off VB. It's almost impossible to find complete help samples in >> VB these days. >> >> Developers either convert to C# or die off with their latinesque language >> >> .. or move to Coldfusion :) >> >> >> "tom c" <tomca***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1157646979.820150.287390@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >>> Would it be correct to say the VB is still the language most used for >>> Dot Net programming, and C# the second most used? >>> >> >> > > re:
> where is the "microsoft ASP.net 2.0 core reference" from mspress in "VB" ? So what ?The .Net Framework 2.0 Class Library Reference isn't out yet, while the 1.1 lib ref is. That doesn't mean that Microsoft is dropping support for the .Net Framework 2.0. You can't base a theory that speculates dropping support for a language on a particular book not having come out. re: > very hard to find complete training source materials in VB - my personal experience You don't have to rely on MS Press.Here's a complete ASP.NET 2.0 tutorial which uses -exclusively- VB.NET : http://msconline.maconstate.edu/tutorials/ASPNET20/default.htm You'll have a hard time finding a better one. Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/ asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/ foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/ =================================== Show quote "Jon Paal" <Jon[ nospam ]Paal @ everywhere dot com> wrote in message news:ON7O9ds0GHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > "microsoft ASP.net 2.0 core reference" from mspress is their manual available in "C#" > > where is the "microsoft ASP.net 2.0 core reference" from mspress in "VB" ? > very hard to find complete training source materials in VB - my personal experience > "Juan T. Llibre" <nomailrepl***@nowhere.com> wrote in message > news:OnjFSFs0GHA.324@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> re: >>> MS is pushing C# very very hard and trying desparately to kill off VB. >> >> That's -simply- not so. >> >> re: >>> It's almost impossible to find complete help samples in VB these days. >> >> Compare the current downloads for each language at the MS Download Center : >> >> C# : >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Browse.aspx?DisplayLang=en&nr=20&productId=ED4263A6-CF84-4D66-B0FB-BEFCCC28A9BD&sortCriteria=date >> >> There's 213 downloads for Visual C#. >> >> VB.NET: >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Browse.aspx?DisplayLang=en&nr=20&productId=1652D9A4-F0B3-4630-ACD5-56982EA750AB&sortCriteria=date >> >> There's 331 downloads for VB.NET. >> >> Over and above the individual language downloads, >> there's hundreds more downloads which include both languages. >> >> You are spreading FUD...and I wonder why you're doing it. >> >> >> >> >> Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP >> aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/ >> asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/ >> foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/ >> =================================== >> "Jon Paal" <Jon[ nospam ]Paal @ everywhere dot com> wrote in message >> news:Oi3C87r0GHA.1536@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> MS is pushing C# very very hard and trying desparately to kill off VB. It's almost impossible >>> to find complete help samples in VB these days. >>> >>> Developers either convert to C# or die off with their latinesque language >>> >>> .. or move to Coldfusion :) >>> >>> >>> "tom c" <tomca***@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:1157646979.820150.287390@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >>>> Would it be correct to say the VB is still the language most used for >>>> Dot Net programming, and C# the second most used? >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > The total lack of MS books with VB, which is precisely my point...
I've been using maconstate for years because MS doesn't provide the necessary VB support. another example is : "Developing Microsoft ASP.NET Server Controls and Components " from MS Press is in C# "Jon Paal" <Jon[ nospam ]Paal @ everywhere dot com> wrote in message Your argument doesn't hold water, drop it. Microsoft has made no announcement news:eAf1Jfu0GHA.4312@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > The total lack of MS books with VB, which is precisely my point... > > I've been using maconstate for years because MS doesn't provide the necessary > VB support. > > > another example is : > > "Developing Microsoft ASP.NET Server Controls and Components " from MS Press > is in C# that VB will not be continued. They've supported BASIC since MS-DOS days while other software companies dropped it outright. About the only advantage C# has in this regard is that it's been formally released as a standard (ECMA 334) whereas VB has not. Jon,
as Juan correctly explained, this is not true (fortunately or unfortunately as the case may be). I'd be vaguely happy if VB.NET developers would simply learn to turn on Option Strict and Option Explicit. Peter -- Co-founder, Eggheadcafe.com developer portal: http://www.eggheadcafe.com UnBlog: http://petesbloggerama.blogspot.com Show quote "Jon Paal" wrote: > MS is pushing C# very very hard and trying desparately to kill off VB. It's almost impossible to find complete help samples in VB > these days. > > Developers either convert to C# or die off with their latinesque language > > ... or move to Coldfusion :) > > > "tom c" <tomca***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1157646979.820150.287390@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Would it be correct to say the VB is still the language most used for > > Dot Net programming, and C# the second most used? > > > > > That's really surprising to me since the VS 2005 road show did everything in
VB.NET 2005. Mike Ober. "Jon Paal" <Jon[ nospam ]Paal @ everywhere dot com> wrote in message It's almost impossible to find complete help samples in VBnews:Oi3C87r0GHA.1536@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > MS is pushing C# very very hard and trying desparately to kill off VB. Show quote > these days. > > Developers either convert to C# or die off with their latinesque language > > .. or move to Coldfusion :) > > > "tom c" <tomca***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1157646979.820150.287390@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Would it be correct to say the VB is still the language most used for > > Dot Net programming, and C# the second most used? > > > > > "Michael D. Ober" <ober***@.alum.mit.edu.nospam> wrote in message Jon Paal's referring to VB, not VB.NET...news:__IMg.17112$Qf.14155@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > That's really surprising to me since the VS 2005 road show did everything > in > VB.NET 2005. He might have written "VB", but he was referring to VB.NET.
Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/ asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/ foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/ =================================== Show quote "Mark Rae" <mark@markNOSPAMrae.com> wrote in message news:uXwf1UK1GHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > "Michael D. Ober" <ober***@.alum.mit.edu.nospam> wrote in message > news:__IMg.17112$Qf.14155@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > >> That's really surprising to me since the VS 2005 road show did everything in >> VB.NET 2005. > > Jon Paal's referring to VB, not VB.NET... >  |
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